'But I think for us anyway, when times get... when you've got kids, and you're sleep-deprived, you're falling back on your friendship far more than you're falling back on...'
'Sexy times,' Zoe cheekily butted in.
Hamish said it's hard to get intimate when there's kids in the house, confessing: 'I tried it, yeah, doesn't work.
'At three in the morning when the kids are crying, I'm like, "I think I know what we need here." Put some leather pants on and a satin shirt, and came back. It didn't work.'
Zoe quipped: 'It was weird,' before Hamish interjected: 'Actually, there was there was that weird fetish that Zoe had.'
'Oh, don't talk about that, honey,' the author laughed.